Very nice dressage saddle 18" seat and a medium tree fits a thoroughbred or other high wither very well an has enough room for a wider shoulder as new only ridden in 3 time saddle not even broken in yet saddle has a small knee roll but the design of the seat makes you feel really secure and at the same time you can really feel you horse this saddle is made in England you don't see to many of this brand ( silouette ) in the United States this is an older model but checked their website new they are 1000 an up so this is a good saddle not a cheap piece of junk soft black color new only used like 3 times then stored on a good saddle rack in my house it may be a dressage style but is a trail or endurance saddle thank you everyone for looking at my saddle