Thornhill Germania 2 Phase All Purpose/ Close Contact Saddle, Medium tree, 17.5 seat size. Lightly used saddle in excellent condition. Saddle was only used on and off for a year or so. Saddle Flaps have a slight rub on each side from stirrup leathers (Not included). There are slight rubs here and there but they are not noticeable. Extremely soft leather and soft seat. I used this on a chubby quarter horse and on a bony thoroughbred with no problem.