Black Forest Town & Country Treeless Saddle-size 3 (equivalent to 17 inch western or 19 inch English) This is a fantastic trail saddle!!! I have a smaller one that I have used for trail riding for approximately 6 years. It fits my two gaited horses with very different backs wonderfully well and does not restrict their movement. Great contact with your horse! Comfortable for me and comfortable for them. We bought this saddle lightly-used a couple years ago for my husband. Unfortunately it ended up being a larger size than advertised and is too big for him. He rarely rides so we have only used it a few times. It is in great condition. I have included pictures of the only 2 noticeable areas of damage. I am unsure what caused the discoloration- we bought it that way. The leather does not appear to be compromised in that area. The top of the stirrup fenders have some cracking in the leather. This seems to maybe be a common flaw as this has also happened on my saddle. As the pictures show, the back of the strap is well reinforced with nylon. I have been riding mine in the same condition for several years with no issues. See blackforestsaddles.com for more info on these great saddles.