Excellent condition Classic Freeform. 171/2" seat. Comes with 2 interchangeable seats: 1 is suede, 1 is smooth, both 171/2". Comes with stirrup leathers and stirrups. The saddle is black, the leathers are brown. I bought the saddle new at a Parelli professional clinic where a Freeform distributor was selling the saddles. All she had was the brown leathers; I never replaced them with black. Sorry! But the leathers are in excellent condition! I also have the pad shown on the photos. It is also in great condition. I will throw this in for free if buyer would like it. I am including it in "as is" condition, meaning it won't be washed, but there is nothing wrong with it.